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  • CENTRE PLATE REV2 M2 HOLES 20X20MM LUGS 1MM CF 2.0GM

    $ 2.32

    Rev2 centre plate with battery lugs.

    M2 holes spaced 20mm x 20mm for FC/ESC.
    74mm diagonal tip to tip.
    4.5mm wide fingers, useable wrapping length 9mm.
    Weighs 2.0gm.

    The Rev1/Rev2/Rev3 centre plates are all the same basic design, size and shape; except that weight and strength are reduced with increasing Rev number.

  • CENTRE PLATE REV2 M2 HOLES 20X20MM 1MM CF 1.9GM

    $ 2.32

    Rev2 centre plate.

    M2 holes spaced 20mm x 20mm for FC/ESC.
    74mm diagonal tip to tip.
    4.5mm wide fingers, useable wrapping length 9mm.
    Weighs 1.9gm.

    The Rev1/Rev2/Rev3 centre plates are all the same basic design, size and shape; except that weight and strength are reduced with increasing Rev number.

  • CENTRE PLATE REV3 M2 HOLES 20X20MM LUGS 1MM CF 1.75GM

    $ 2.32

    Rev3 superlight centre plate with battery lugs.

    M2 holes spaced 20mm x 20mm for FC/ESC.
    74mm diagonal tip to tip.
    4.5mm wide fingers, useable wrapping length 11mm.
    Weighs 1.75gm.

    The Rev1/Rev2/Rev3 centre plates are all the same basic design, size and shape; except that weight and strength are reduced with increasing Rev number.

     

  • CENTRE PLATE REV1 M2 HOLES 20x20MM 1MM CF 2.1GM

    $ 2.32

    Rev1 20x20mm centre plate in 1mm CF.

    M2 holes spaced 20mm x 20mm for FC/ESC.
    74mm diagonal tip to tip.
    4.5mm wide fingers, useable wrapping length 9mm.
    Weighs 2.1gm.

    The Rev1/Rev2/Rev3 centre plates are all the same basic design, size and shape; except that weight and strength are reduced with increasing Rev number.

  • 16X16 MOTOR MOUNT FOR TUBE FRAME 1MM 0.66GM

    $ 2.90

    16 x 16mm motor mount in 1.0mm CF.

    Estimated weight 0.66gm.

    Tabs for kevlar lashing are 5mm wide and available length for lashing is 6mm at each end.

    Material is 1.0mm thick.

    All holes are 3mm.

    Just to be clear, you get 4 pieces joined together like in the pic that have to be separated.

    Check that you have clearance for the motor screw heads (if required) before gluing.

  • 16x16 MOTOR MOUNT FOR TUBE FRAME 1.5MM 1.0GM

    $ 3.62

    16 x 16mm motor mount in 1.5mm CF.

    Estimated weight 1.0gm.

    Tabs for kevlar lashing are 5mm wide and available length for lashing is 6mm at each end.

    Material is 1.5mm thick.

    All holes are 3mm.

    Just to be clear, you get 4 pieces joined together like in the pic that have to be separated.

    Check that you have clearance for the motor screw heads (if required) before gluing.

  • 12X12 MOTOR MOUNT FOR TUBE FRAME 1MM 0.32GM

    $ 4.35

    12 x 12mm motor mount in 1.0mm CF.

    Estimated weight 0.32gm.

    Tabs for kevlar lashing are 4mm wide and available length for lashing is 6mm at each end.

    Material is 1.0mm thick.

    Holes are 2mm except center hole which is 4.5mm.

    Just to be clear, you get 8 pieces joined together like in the pic that have to be separated.

    Check that you have clearance for the motor screw heads (if required) before gluing.

     

  • 19x19 motor mount for tube frame 1.5mm 1.2gm

    $ 3.62

    19 x 19mm minimal motor mount in 1.5mm CF.

    Estimated weight 1.2gm.

    Tabs for kevlar lashing are 5mm wide and 6mm long.

    Material is 1.5mm thick.

    2mm of material has been added between the opposing pieces to allow for cutting the pieces apart.

    Holes are all 3mm.

    Just to be clear, you get 4 pieces like in the pic that have to be separated.

    Instructions for how to build a tube frame:
    https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2645953-Mini-tubular-and-ultralight-LOS-Acro-FPV-Quads

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    CENTRE PLATE 16X16

    $ 2.00

    1mm CP for 90-110mm frames, 16x16mm.

    Use with SE100 ARMS.

    The 4 centre plates will have to be separated with a junior hacksaw or small (thin) diamond file.

    Weight of a built-up SE100 frame is approx 6.06gm with 4 x 8mm alloy M2 screws. Arms are 1.2gm each, plain centre plate 0.40gm, centre plate with battery lugs 0.47gm. 4 alloy screws 8mm long 0.3gm.

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    X100 3mm 5.3gm

    $ 7.80

    Approx 5.3gm, in 3mm CF, 100mm diagonal, 9mm motor mounts.

    Carbon fibre grain lays along the arms hence the higher price. This gives much greater strength than the commonly used lay of grain at 45 degrees with narrow arms like this.

    It will require the use of double-sided foam or some other method to mount the esc and FC. The intended use is for LOS.

    Recommend KingKong 1105 8500Kv motors, 10A+ esc, Nanotech 300mAh 2S battery, 3020 props cut down to 62mm. Quad + battery in this configuration weighs around 55gm using the lightest esc/FC/rx you can find and alloy M2 screws for the props and motors. It performs better than expected (very well).

     

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    PROP CUTTER GUIDE V1a

    $ 2.44

    SHORT VERSION:

    2mm plate for cutting props 52mm to 73mm in 1mm increments. All holes 1.5mm. Dimensions 43.5mm x 60mm.

    Mount it to a block of wood for manual prop cutting.

    LONG VERSION:

    For those that don't want to use a power tool to cut small props, or simply prefer doing it by hand, there is this jig for cutting small props. Usually it would be used for cutting 3" T-mount props to any size from 52mm to 73mm, in 1mm increments.

    The idea is you screw the prop-cutting guide plate onto a piece of wood or suitable surface. Put a 1.5mm drill or spare 110X motor prop shaft in the hole that will give you the finished prop size you want, clip the prop tips with sidecutters or tool of choice, then run a flat file along the edge of the propcutter plate to give the final trim. Finish off with some 400 grade sandpaper.

    You will need to drill out the 4 corner holes, all holes are the same 1.5mm size to keep the cost down, and it's impossible to know what size screws the buyer has in his possession. Even better if you can countersink the corner screws so the props can rotate freely.

     

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    CF790A

    $ 8.84

    7mm motors brushed frame, 90mm diagonal, thin arms, 2mm thick CF, weighs 2.15gm.

    Motor holes are 6.9mm so will have to be reamed or sanded or filed to allow the motors to fit. Arm width  is 2.4mm at the narrowest point.

    Compared to the CF793 Rev 1 frame on the left in the pic below, the arms are narrower, but much stiffer in the vertical plane. The CF weave is aligned with the arms on this frame, which adds to the strength (and the cost price).

    This is an experimental frame but should allow good performance from 7mm motors.

    Here is a build with a cut-down E011 FC running Silverxxx firmware, and Syma X5/X5C motors. It weighs 21.4gm without battery.

     

     

     

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    CF777 - 77MM FRAME FOR 7MM MOTORS

    $ 3.25

    Quad frame in 1mm CF for 7mm brushed motors. Motor hole size is 6.85mm. This frame is the same frame as the CF677 but with symmetrical centre section and 6.85mm motor holes for the 7mm motors. Weight is 1.4gm. This frame was requested, checked and built by Shahid, the flight reports are very good. Here's a pic of Shahid's very tidy (and very light) build, it uses an Eachine H8 mini flight controller and H8 mini props with Syma X5C 7mm motors.

     

     

  • Mugenski centre plate 1.5mm CF

    $ 2.52

    Mugenski centre plate for tubular frames in 1.5mm CF. Estimated weight is less than 3.6gm. It has three FC/4in1 esc mounting options:

    • 30.5mm FC/4in1 esc in normal position, the M2 holes will need to be drilled out to 3mm if required.
    • 30.5mm FC/4in1 esc offset 45 degrees.
    • 20x20mm FC/4in1 esc in a 45 degree offset position, the M2 holes can be drilled out to 3mm if M3 hardware is to be used.
  • Mugenski centre plate 1mm CF

    $ 2.10

    Mugenski centre plate for tubular frames in 1mm CF. Estimated weight is less than 2.4gm. It has three FC/4in1 esc mounting options:

    • 30.5mm FC/4in1 esc in normal position, the M2 holes will need to be drilled out to 3mm if required.
    • 30.5mm FC/4in1 esc offset 45 degrees.
    • 20x20mm FC/4in1 esc in a 45 degree offset position, the M2 holes can be drilled out to 3mm if M3 hardware is to be used.
  • SMALL SIZE CENTRE PLATE M3 HOLES 20X20MM 1MM CF 1GM

    $ 1.12

    Small size centre plate for micro tube frame builds cut from 1mm carbon fibre, with 3mm holes spaced at 20mm (for 20x20mm esc and/or FC). Estimated weight is 0.96gm.

  • SMALL SIZE CENTRE PLATE M2 HOLES 20x20MM 1MM CF 1GM

    $ 1.12

    Small size centre plate for micro tube frame builds cut from 1mm carbon fibre, with 2mm holes spaced at 20mm. Estimated weight is 0.96gm.

     
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    SE126 CENTRE PLATE M3 HOLES 20MM 1.5MM CF

    $ 1.38

    Centre plate for SE126 3" quad frame kit in 1.5mm CF, estimated weight is 2.0gm. M3 holes are spaced at 20mm.

    The kit this belongs to is listed here: http://www.armattanproductions.com/pages/kit_detail/752

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    SE126 ARM FOR 1306 MOTORS 3MM CF

    $ 2.31

    Seperate interlocking arm for SE126 3" quad, in 3mm CF, 6mm wide, estimated weight is 3.1gm, to suit 1306/1407 motors.

    The kit this belongs to is here: http://www.armattanproductions.com/pages/kit_detail/752

     

  • centreplate1c5 offset2mm

    $ 3.22

    Centre plate for offset FC in 2mm CF.

  • CENTRE PLATE REV1 WITH 45 DEGREE OFFSET FOR FC 1.5MM CF 3.56GM

    $ 3.08

    Rev1 style centre plate in 1.5mm carbon fibre with a 45 degree offset for the FC, and with 3mm holes spaced at 30.5mm. This size centre plate would usually be used for tube frames up to 200mm diagonal size.

    Estimated weight is 3.56gm.

  • CENTRE PLATE REV1 WITH 45 DEGREE OFFSET FOR FC 1MM CF 2.37GM

    $ 2.80

    Rev1 style centre plate in 1mm carbon fibre with a 45 degree offset for the FC, and with 3mm holes spaced at 30.5mm. This size centre plate would usually be used for tube frames up to 200mm diagonal size.

    Estimated weight is 2.37gm.

  • LARGE SIZE CENTRE PLATE M3 HOLES 30.5MM 2MM CF 5.4GM

    $ 3.50

    Larger size centre plate for larger tube frame builds cut from 2mm carbon fibre, with 3mm holes spaced at 30.5mm. Estimated weight is 5.4gm.

  • LARGE SIZE CENTRE PLATE M3 HOLES 30.5MM 1.5MM CF 4.0GM

    $ 3.36

    Larger size centre plate for larger tube frame builds cut from 1.5mm carbon fibre, with 3mm holes spaced at 30.5mm. Estimated weight is 4.0gm.

  • LARGE SIZE CENTRE PLATE M3 HOLES 30.5MM 1MM CF 2.7GM

    $ 3.08

    Larger size centre plate for larger tube frame builds cut from 1mm carbon fibre, with 3mm holes spaced at 30.5mm. Estimated weight is 2.7gm.

  • MOTOR MOUNT 1104/1304 2 HOLE 1MM CF

    $ 1.12

    Tube frame motor mount for 1104/1105/1106/1304 motors, 2 x M2 holes with 9mm spacing, 4.35mm centre hole, in 1mm CF. Estimated weight is 0.16gm. 

  • CENTRE PLATE REV1 M3 HOLES 30.5MM 1.5MM CF 3.3GM

    $ 1.96

    Centre plate for a tube frame build, cut from 1.5mm carbon fibre, with 3mm holes spaced at 30.5mm.

    Weight is 3.3gm.

     

  • CENTRE PLATE REV1 M3 HOLES 30.5MM 1MM CF 2.2GM

    $ 1.82

    Centre plate for a tube frame build, cut from 1mm carbon fibre, with 3mm holes spaced at 30.5mm.

    Weight is 2.2gm.

     

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    SE146 CENTRE PLATE M3 HOLES 30.5MM 1.5MM CF

    $ 1.54

    Centre plate for SE146 quad frame kit in 1.5mm CF, weighs 3.2gm. M3 holes spaced 30.5mm.

    The kit this belongs to is listed here: http://www.armattanproductions.com/pages/kit_detail/629

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    SE146 ARM FOR 1306 MOTORS 3MM CF

    $ 2.46

    Seperate interlocking arm for SE146 quad, in 3mm CF, 6mm wide, weighs 3.2gm, to suit 1306/1407 motors.

    The kit this belongs to is here: http://www.armattanproductions.com/pages/kit_detail/629

  • CENTRE PLATE M2 HOLES 30.5MM 1MM CF 1.9GM

    $ 1.40

    Centre plate for a tube frame build cut from 1mm carbon fibre. Note it has undersized holes at 2mm, spaced at 30.5mm. Estimated weight is 1.9gm.

  • MOTOR MOUNT 22XX 4 HOLE 2MM CF

    $ 1.40

    Tube frame motor mount for 22XX motors, 4 x M3 holes with 16 x 19 spacing, 7mm centre hole, 27mm diameter, in 2mm CF. Estimated weight is 1.62gm.

  • MOTOR MOUNT 18XX 4 HOLE 2MM CF

    $ 1.26

    Tube frame motor mount for 18XX motors, 4 x M2 holes with 12 x 16 spacing, 6mm centre hole, 22mm diameter, in 2mm CF. Estimated weight is 1.1gm.

  • MOTOR MOUNT 22XX 2 HOLE 2MM CF

    $ 1.26

    Tube frame motor mount for 22XX motors, 2 x M3 holes with 19mm spacing, 7mm centre hole, in 2mm CF. Estimated weight is 1.14gm.

  • MOTOR MOUNT 18XX 2 HOLE 2MM CF

    $ 1.26

    Tube frame motor mount for 18XX motors, 2 x M2 holes with 16mm spacing, 6mm centre hole, in 2mm CF. Weight is max 0.84gm, typically 0.81gm.

  • MOTOR MOUNT 1306/1407 2 HOLE 1MM CF

    $ 1.12

    Tube frame motor mount for 1306 motors, 2 x M2 holes with 12mm spacing, 5mm centre hole, in 1mm CF. Estimated weight is 0.29gm.

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    MFC793 7MM MOTORS 93MM FRAME 1.5MM CF 3.1GM

    $ 5.19

    This is a 93mm frame for 7mm motors, cut from 1.5mm carbon fiber. Weight is estimated at 3.1gm.

    It is the same as the MFC893 frame with just some very minor changes besides the obvious motor size change from 8.5mm to 7mm motors. (Refer http://www.armattanproductions.com/pages/product_details/3168 for more details.)

    It will accept flight controllers up to 27.5mm wide and 35mm long, which includes most available brushed FC's. The H8 mini and H101 FC's will also fit neatly. 

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    105MM FRAME 1105 MOTORS 2MM CF 8.5GM PIKO FC

    $ 8.14

    105mm frame for 1105 motors in 2mm CF, approx weight 8.5gm, for PIKO BLX FC.

    This frame is listed under the 3" prop size search feature for convenience, but the design is for 2.5" props (63.5mm). With 65mm props, it looks like there is approx 2mm clearance to the corners of the Piko BLX FC, and 9mm clearance between props.

    The motor holes will acept 1104, 1105 and 1304 motors. 1306 and 1407 motors will not fit. There are no other parts, it is a bare frame only. Here is a link to some suitable top plates on Armattan productions:

    http://armattanproductions.com/pages/product_details/4434

    http://armattanproductions.com/pages/product_details/2801

     

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    MFC8100 8.5MM MOTORS 100MM FRAME 2MM CF 4.3GM

    $ 5.61

    This is a 100mm frame for 8.5mm motors, cut from 2mm carbon fiber. Estimated weight is approx 4.3gm. The motor hole size is specified at 8.5mm.

    It will accept flight controllers up to 27.5mm wide and 35mm long, which includes most available brushed FC's. The H8 mini and H101 FC's will also fit neatly.

    It has not been tested yet so order it at your own risk. When test builds have been completed, and if all is up to expectations, I will report that back here. It is listed at cost price.

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    MFC8100 8.5MM MOTORS 100MM FRAME 1.5MM CF 3.2GM

    $ 5.33

    This is a 100mm frame for 8.5mm motors, cut from 1.5mm carbon fiber. Estimated weight is approx 3.2gm. The motor hole size is specified at 8.5mm.

    It will accept flight controllers up to 27.5mm wide and 35mm long, which includes most available brushed FC's. The H8 mini and H101 FC's will also fit neatly.

    It has not been tested yet so order it at your own risk. When test builds have been completed, and if all is up to expectations, I will report that back here. It is listed at cost price.

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    CF8100 8.5MM MOTORS 100MM FRAME 1.5MM CF 2.95GM

    $ 5.33

    100mm version of the 110mm frame, arms are narrower at 4mm wide, the centre section is now symmetrical, and 2mm holes in the arms for the motor wires have been added.

    Estimated weight is 2.95gm, it will take up to 65mm GF props, and 8.5mm motors, 1.5mm thick. The motor holes are specified at 8.5mm.

    It is designed to be as light as possible so is not recommended if you crash more than occasionally. It was drawn up as a customer request and has not been tested yet so order it at your own risk. When test builds have been completed, and if all is up to expectations, I will report the results here. It is listed at cost price.

     

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    MFC893 8.5MM MOTORS 93MM FRAME 1.5MM CF 3.12GM

    $ 5.19

    This is a 93mm frame for 8.5mm motors, cut from 1.5mm carbon fiber. Weight is 3.12gm.

    It will accept flight controllers up to 27.5mm wide and 35mm long, which includes most available brushed FC's. The H8 mini and H101 FC's will also fit neatly.

    I have bought and thoroughly checked this frame, it looks good to go. 8.5mm motors are a slightly loose fit in the 8.5mm holes specified. The motors will have to be secured using thin slices of PVC tube, glue, or some other means. The frame feels quite rigid for what it is. It is listed at cost price.

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    120MM FRAME CENTRE PLATE 30.5MM M3 1.5MM CF

    $ 2.10

    Replacement centre plate with 4 x M3 holes spaced 30.5mm apart, in 1.5mm carbon fibre, designed for:

    120MM FRAME KIT 1105 MOTORS 30.5MM FC CARBON PARTS ONLY

    http://www.armattanproductions.com/pages/kit_detail/490

    Weight is 2.6gm.

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    120MM FRAME PAIR OF ARMS 2MM CF

    $ 3.15

    Replacement arm pair in 2mm carbon fibre for:

    120MM FRAME KIT 1105 MOTORS 30.5MM FC CARBON PARTS ONLY

    http://www.armattanproductions.com/pages/kit_detail/490

    Weight is 4.4gm.

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    CF893 8.5MM MOTORS 93MM FRAME 2MM CF 3.63GM

    $ 5.33

    2mm thick frame, 93mm diagonal, 8.5mm motor hole size.Weight is 3.63gm.

    Designed for H8 mini, H101 or H8S 3D FC.

    I have bought and thoroughly checked this frame, it looks great. Armattan are masters at cutting in this size. 8.5mm motors are a slightly loose fit in the 8.5mm holes specified. The motors will have to be secured using thin slices of PVC tube, glue, or some other means. More details below. The frame feels quite rigid. It is listed at cost price.

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    CF893 8.5mm motors 93mm frame 1.5mm CF 2.75gm

    $ 5.19

    1.5mm thick frame, 93mm diagonal, 8.5mm motor hole size.

    Estimated weight 2.75gm.

    Designed for H8 mini, H101 or H8S 3D FC.

    I have bought and thoroughly checked the 2mm version of this frame, which is cut from the same drawing. It looks great. Armattan are masters at cutting in this size. 8.5mm motors are a slightly loose fit in the 8.5mm holes specified. The motors will have to be secured using thin slices of PVC tube, glue, or some other means. The frame is listed at cost price.

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    CF8110 8.5mm motors 110mm frame 2mm CF 5.9gm

    $ 5.75

    Frame for H8 mini FC, 110mm diagonal in 2mm thickness and 8.5mm motors.

    Motor holes are specified at 8.4mm, weight is estimated at 5.9gm.

     

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    CF8110 8.5mm motors 110mm frame 1.5mm CF 3.95gm

    $ 5.61

    110mm frame for H8 mini pcb, 8.5mm motors in 1.5mm CF, estimated weight 3.95gm.

    This design was a request, and is offered at cost price. Motor hole size is 8.5mm.

    Here's a really nice build of this frame by Toobsrc:

     

    For more info on flashed H8 mini FC's check the CF793 frame listing.

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    CF793 rev1 for H8 mini FC

    $ 5.92

    Quad frame in 1.5mm CF for 7mm brushed motors and 93mm diagonal motor to motor distance. It is designed to take a H8 mini blue or green FC, or the H101 FC, with silverxxx firmware which gives level and acro modes and the ability to tune the PID's. Side lugs for rubber bands were added at the suggestion of RCGroups user Denovich (thank you!), and motor hole size reduced from 7.0mm to 6.9mm for a firmer motor fit. It is expected to have to sand out the motor holes a little bit to fit the motors. Be careful though as the difference between too tight and too loose is very little.

    For more details refer to the original version CF793 listed on this site here: http://www.armattanproductions.com/pages/product_details/935

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    CF677 Rev 1 for H8 mini FC

    $ 3.23

    Quad frame in 1mm CF for 6mm brushed motors and H8 mini FC. New motor hole size is 5.85mm vs the 6mm motor hole size of the original CF677 currently for sale. Side lugs for rubber bands were added after a suggestion by RCGroups member Denovich (thank you!). This frame has not been checked and built as far as I know, so buy it at your own risk, it is listed at cost price. The design is near identical to the other CF677 frame.

    BEWARE - if you buy this frame the 6mm motors you have will not just slide in, you will have to remove approximately 3 thousandths of an inch (0.07mm) from the inside of the motor mount holes to achieve the motor fit that you want. Suggested tools/methods are a fine round file, or 400 wet and dry sandpaper wrapped around a pen or suitable sized wooden dowel rod. Beware of carbon fibre dust, it is bad for your lungs. Do it under a running tap or use suitable protective gear.

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    CF677 frame for H8 mini FC

    $ 3.94

    EDIT: May 24 2016 - from now on all Armattan Productions frames will be cut from MATTE FINISH carbon fibre. When you order this frame, it will come in matte finish, not glossy as specified above.

    77mm diagonal frame in 1.0mm carbon fiber, designed for the H8 mini FC. This frame size is the same size as a H8 mini, and is designed to take a flashed H8 mini green or blue pcb (FC), also the H101 and H8S 3D FC will fit (they are the same size and shape). The H101 and H8S 3D allow 3D flying. There is more info below on custom firware for the FC.

    Motor size 6mm, weighs 1.27gm. The build in the links below weighs 12.7gm without battery. Build pics:



    For PID tuning, if using the silverxxx firmware, start with default settings minus 15%. When you get the rates/acro mode tuned, if you still have oscillations in level mode, reduce the Kp term in angle_pid.c by up to 50% or as required.

     

     

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    CF793 frame for H8 mini FC

    $ 5.92

    EDIT: April 24 2016 - from now on all Armattan Productions frames will be cut from MATTE FINISH carbon fibre. When you order this frame, it will come in matte finish, not glossy as specified above.

    93mm diagonal frame in 1.5mm carbon fiber, designed for the H8 mini FC but will take other FC's.

    Motor hole size is 7.0mm, weighs 2.35gm. Build pics:



    Suggested PID's to start with if using the silverxxx firmware:

    float pidkp[PIDNUMBER] = { 11e-2, 11e-2, 8e-1 };
    float pidki[PIDNUMBER] = { 9e-1, 9e-1, 4e-1 };
    float pidkd[PIDNUMBER] = { 5.5e-1, 5.5e-1, 4e-1 };

     

    EDIT 30th May 2016 - it appears the newer H8 mini's are being shipped with a new blue pcb and this blue pcb is now flashable with the silverxxx H8 mini blue firmware. There are reports that the white H8 mini from Banggood is still being shipped with the green pcb. The blue pcb (and the H101 pcb) have an on-board battery connector, so if you want to mount the pcb on top of the frame, the battery connector will have to be removed and flying battery leads fitted. Alternatively the pcb could be spaced higher above the frame for connector clearance, or the pcb can be mounted underneath the frame, which also makes the LED's more visible (especially for night flying).

    I tuned a friends CF793 recently that was identical to mine except the Syma 7mm motors were from a different manufacturer. We ended up with these PID's, very different to the settings on my frame listed above. Therefore expect some trial and error to find the right settings for your quad.

    float pidkp[PIDNUMBER] = { 10.0e-2, 10.0e-2, 8e-1 };
    float pidki[PIDNUMBER] = { 3.0e-1,  3.0e-1, 4e-1 };
    float pidkd[PIDNUMBER] = { 6.0e-1,  6.0e-1, 4.0e-1 };